From: Mat McVeagh (matmcv@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 07 2002 - 00:47:44 EST
>From: Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@yahoo.co.uk>
>
>"Tallin Ruman" or "Talina Ruman" sounds cool to me.
>To be honest, "Rumano" rather evokes the impression that we are dealing
>here
>with Romance-based IAL nr. 437. But I don't think the name has been taken
>yet.
LOL, as I say when I first made Ruman it was not with any awareness of
anybody else doing conlangs. I just came up with a name that meant "from the
Romans". I understood that that was where the names "Ro/umanian" and
"Rumansch" came from, and I just thought of "Ruman" as another one. On my
website I am going to just call it "Ruman" because I will be representing
what I created back then.
>2. Languages derived from Vulgar Latin. ...
>Some other languages are based on Vulgar Latin without assuming a
>non-Romance
>substratum (Narbonósc (?), Ibrán).
That is where Ruman fits I guess.
>Working on Wenedyk I constantly struggle with the fact, that my Latin
>dictionary says nothing about Vulgar Latin.
In my case I learnt French and Italian at school, and a bit of Spanish
outside, plus Latin at school. I borrowed a book called "The French
Language: Past and Present" which told the story right from the changes of
VL from CL. A lot of those early changes (of Gallo-Romance) were in common
with Ibero-Romance, and Spanish has been much more conservative, so it has
been easy to work that out. I don't know many details of Italian
development, or of that of further off things like Rumanian. The orbilat
website looks like a good start tho.
>3. Languages not based on Latin at all, at least not directly. A well-known
>example is Talossan.
Talossan looks like a good example of a ficlang from many European sources,
like Esperanto but with 'naturalistic irregularity'. :) And an awful lot of
accents.
>4. Languages that are imaginary sister languages of Latin rather than
>daughter
>languages. Dan Jones' Aredos is an example, I believe. Personally, I am
>rather
>fond of Oscan and Umbrian, and sometimes I think it would be exciting to
>play
>with them a bit.
Indeed. But how well are they known? I thought there were only some carvings
in a cave or something.
>5. Auxlangs, the vast majority of which seems to be Romance-based. This
>group
>includes both languages that eclectically base the majority of their
>vocabulary
>on one or more Romance languages, and languages that simplify Latin.
There do seem to be a lot of Romance-based auxlangs. Why is this? I think
it's (a) because Latin is hightly respected, and elements of it are
contained in many languages, not just Romance ones (b) Romance languages are
prominent in Europe, even more than Germanic, despite English's greater size
globally.
>Oh dear, why did I write all this? I got carried away. I must have lost
>control
>over myself completely!
Not at all, it's been very informative.
>Jan
Mat
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